Snuffleheim
06/15/13 10:09AM
^That. Basically it looks like another postponement rather than a skip. Not great, but hey, the opportunity's still there.

ElementJester said:
Someone managed to clean up Rose's text:
http://bookerdewitty.tumblr.com/...complete-deobfuscation-of

It certainly sounds like something Rose would say, and at least it helps clear some of the confusion up.

Well, that's odd. Why would they have such difficulty understanding each other? The words are fairly straightforward to the readers, I can't see Dave not understanding any except perhaps grimbark, which Rose explained in a sensible way. Something's definitely up there. Wonder what it is. Maybe the game corruption interfering with the universe proper? Although the way Dave and Kanaya are talking, it seems like they're getting words in general, just ones they don't understand. And Rose can definitely read Dave's words, but she doesn't understand them either.
Chocoboo
06/16/13 03:26AM
Well we can't be the corrupted Jane, but it seems that Jade is back in the medium and have things to discuss with Roxy.
nobooks
06/16/13 05:36AM
The readers will never get something they want. More plot obstructing events happen. Such is Homestuck.
Sporkaganza
06/17/13 07:47AM
It looks like we don't have a "perfectly generic object" tag.

I'm thinking maybe we should, if my hunch about the fanart for this update is right.
Mr_Ruse
06/17/13 07:58AM
SNORKELBITCH MEGAHITLER.

Also, Grimdark Jade is adorascary.
ElementJester
06/17/13 08:22AM
Void powers continue to become cooler and cooler with every new revelation about them.

And it's nice to see more clarification on Jade's condition. I almost thought Roxy was going to make a breakthrough with Jade's psyche for a second before I realized how short that would have made things. Whatever snaps her out of the Grimbark throes is gonna have to hit deep.
Snuffleheim
06/17/13 10:05AM
Well, now I'm confused. Previously, the most plausible idea was that the Serket power put the human part of Jade to sleep, allowing for the condesce to exercise total control via the Nitram power. But not only is Jade talking like a human, she seems to be in control of what she's saying. Brainwashed rather than mind controlled. Which I expected more from Jane than Jade. I suppose the condesce could be a better actor than I give her credit for (she did after all fake benevolence to all those alien races over the years) but I'm still wondering how exactly this grimbark thing works.

...well, at least it now seems less likely that somehow extracting Bec from Jade would be the way to get her to come around. Because that idea still kind of irritates me.

(I guess this whole mess serves me right for never learning not to pick some favorites in Homestuck.)

IKEEPFORGETTINGSTUFFIMEANTTOSAYEDIT: I'm liking the way the art style is headed. The way it's reminiscent of both regular sprite mode and hero mode is awesome.
ElementJester
06/17/13 10:29AM
If this is anything like the last time someone went into throes, then it's possible that Jade's resistance simply broke, allowing the Condesce to more or less just push her where she needs her. She's definitely been brainwashed like Jane has, but Jane's had the opportunity of a lifetime of subliminal suggestion in her favor. Here, the Condesce had to work quicker to get her under control for her plans to work. Using what I presume to be an English-granted ability, she snapped Jade's inner resistance, essentially rewriting her conscious actions to her will in such a way that she would only need minimal psychic control from that point.

Then again it's 1:30AM where I am so I could just be blathering. I'll probably have something more coherent in the morning.
Snuffleheim
06/17/13 07:53PM
Well, it looks to me like the use of psychic power was only in play when the brainwashing was triggered. We saw the little symbol circles then and don't now...
Beelzebibble
06/17/13 08:27PM
Roxy. Roxy roxy roxy. I heart Roxy. And I'm warming up to grimbark Jade. Hussie made the right choice by showing that she's actually kinda shitty at being evil (notwithstanding the pretty freaky disembowelment threats), not just SNAP all of a sudden perfect infallible villainess.
Tropylium
06/18/13 02:28AM
Rogue of Void powers confirmed for awesome. Though wasn't Jake supposed to have "the most potential"?

I'm really itching to get some explanation on how grimbarkness works though. Seeing Jade like this just ain't right :|
Snuffleheim
06/18/13 06:14AM
Potential ain't worth shit if you don't unlock it.

At least now that she's a bad guy she can show off her abilities more often.
...it's a good thing she's either forgotten or misplaced those spectagoggles, or John would be screwed.
Tropylium
06/18/13 05:29PM
Snuffleheim said:
Potential ain't worth shit if you don't unlock it.

Ok, true. Maybe Page of Hope is kind of an Eevee class or something?
Snuffleheim
06/18/13 08:12PM
^Huh. That's a good way of putting it.
catnipd
06/18/13 09:12PM
Hi everyone!

From recent "Void powers 101" lecture, it seems that `idea_of_object = object + nothingness`, thus the immaterial image of an object could be created as ||-combination of the object card and empty card (00000000), i.e. the code is the same for an object and its image.

Now remember when Jade used her Pictioary modus to captchalogue nonexistent items and yet got correct codes for them? (http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=003279) It makes perfect sense now!
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