MisterSolitaire
11/12/12 10:42AM
Duck said:
Finally that was a quick act :( What chance that this is a psyche?


Greater than zero.
vanymStorm
11/12/12 10:43AM
Pie said:
Wait where the hell is this random alpha kid hate coming from? Not the beta kids = we wouldn't like their story in the Medium? What?

Wow I am confused. It's late, maybe I'm not understanding the gist of that line of thought right.

I want more of them. I don't think it would get boring spending some time with characters that we haven't seen in good while.

Wow. You really, really didn't follow that. At all.

I'm saying Dirk's influence has been eroding their individual identities. At the very least, they all have prominent inferiority complexes now, just like Dave. So three characters brooding to each other over never being as good as Dirk sounds like your idea of entertainment?
Pie
11/12/12 10:45AM
Where did you get brooding and inferiority complexes out of that update though? Where did you get that out of any pestertlogs? Yeah I am not following this at all, perhaps I need some in comic context as to where exactly any of the other three got broody and erroded. I missed that part completely.

Jane looks to have completely gotten over romantic drama, or at the very least it isn't crippling her to the point where she can't kick ass with her giant god fork and her goony mustache (yeah complete erosion of her character which wore a fake mustache the first time we met her) with her good friend Roxy (who was smiling and shooting crap with a gun while being all foxy). Jake didn't look particularly tore up either. He just looked pissed at an underling.

Please help me out here, I am so confused.
Timeghoul
11/12/12 10:48AM
Alright, John being a dick about Con Air because he's now a moody hormonal teenager with identity issues, sorry Ben Stein. Big fucking whoop.

edit: dunno what happened to the post I was replying to, guess I should have quoted it.
Chocoboo
11/12/12 10:49AM
Nyre said:
I'd rather not like them with justification than have them continue to be blank slates. :V

I liked the update, but I still feel a little robbed. I was seriously hoping for more Alpha kids shenanigans :c


Ditto. I mean I like we got to know which planets are whose but, did it have to be at the cost of losing some alpha kid convos and an alchemy session? :(
Duck
11/12/12 10:52AM
New Tags?
These are what I've seen so far.

casual_heiress_ensemble
roxy's foxy dress
strong_outfit
skull_suit
gasmask
skaia fork
crocker rifle
Timeghoul
11/12/12 10:54AM
Roxy's foxy dress is clever, I hope it is canon or the canon name at least lives up to it.
Pie
11/12/12 10:54AM
I pulled those tags out of my ass feel free to modify / delete them / whatever.

I figure this shit is never gonna get canon names anyways but they might. I just want the Alpha kids to get clothing tags too since Hussie actually gave them new duds.
maxcoffee
11/12/12 11:39AM
What got me was the bgm. This and the hyper-Dirk flash both pulled some of the best tracks off of the 8th volume and it synchs great with the animation.
and yeah some more shenanigans would be great, but I'm too astounded by this unparalleled show of brevity to care, or maybe I'm too easily satisfied by fancy flash-work~
and dat stache.
vanymStorm
11/12/12 11:44AM
Pie said:
Where did you get brooding and inferiority complexes out of that update though? Where did you get that out of any pestertlogs? Yeah I am not following this at all, perhaps I need some in comic context as to where exactly any of the other three got broody and erroded. I missed that part completely.

Jane looks to have completely gotten over romantic drama, or at the very least it isn't crippling her to the point where she can't kick ass with her giant god fork and her goony mustache (yeah complete erosion of her character which wore a fake mustache the first time we met her) with her good friend Roxy (who was smiling and shooting crap with a gun while being all foxy). Jake didn't look particularly tore up either. He just looked pissed at an underling.

Please help me out here, I am so confused.

Where are you getting any indication at all of anybody's mental state out of this update?

I'm telling you the logical outcome of the state we left the team in + 4 months. The thing is, I've put some thought into what "Prince of Heart" actually means, and how it applies to things we've seen already. Go to bed and come back when you're rested; it should make a bit more sense.

Dave's character has quite a lot to do with him trying to be like his Bro, because that's what Dirk does to people. He struts around being better and more impressive than them in every way. And that drives them to be more like him, which would be consistent with the competency on display. And really, I actually think this theory was overly optimistic; there's hints in Act 6 itself of so much worse he could do here.
Pie
11/12/12 11:46AM
I am assuming things based on canonical evidence, little as there may be, none of which points to "eroded" characters. Which is similar to what you are doing, along with incorporating a lot more personal feeling toward a specific character. Jake, Jane, and Roxy have no reason to react to Dirk's overbearing tactics in the exact same way that Dave reacted to Bro. He's not their guardian, their sole role model, their entire world. It's wildly different circumstances. But yeah ok I'm going to bed now that you've admitted this is all your personal headcanon. That makes a lot more sense. I thought I missed something. Guess we'll wait and see.
MadameMiz
11/12/12 12:20PM
Ok, now that I've had a bit of time to think about it and rewatch the flash (over and over again), I think we all might be jumping the gun a bit on freaking out about their session being skipped and such.

Homestuck is full of weird time shit, and it wouldn't be the first time we saw events and then went back in time to see what lead up to them. I don't think Hussie would leave us hanging like that.

Still hoping for a psychout, though. At the very least, I hope the next intermission focuses on Caliborn instead of the meteor crew. Their shenanigans were amusing, but there is a such thing as too much of a good thing.
Doc_Bad_Ideas
11/12/12 12:46PM
What I don't get is why the shippers say this update confirms or supports DirkJake. I mean... they stood next to each other? Okay? Does that mean anyone who stands next to another person in a timeskip is automatically dating them?
Timeghoul
11/12/12 12:54PM
Jake now has a tattoo to compliment Dirk's.
Doc_Bad_Ideas
11/12/12 01:04PM
Ah.

I'm honestly sad about the ship, because- in-canon- it seems a bit dubious to me (no offense intended to dirkjake shippers).

I mean, Dirk made Jake constantly fight a robot in order to "train" him- note that its only settings were "too tough to beat" or "is feeling Jake up"- and he seems to toy with people, controlling them all the time, which I think is a really fantastic character arc, but one that needs attention, rather than being shoved under the table for the sake of making out. I mean, Dirk so far has gotten everything he wanted, more or less, through his manipulations and machinations; I figure at some point the man has got to fail, and what better way for a Prince of Heart to fail than losing love?
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