OH GODDANGIT! How do you get rid of the red on artist tags? I accidentally tagged artist:ocean in one of the pictures so now the general ocean tag is red. Even though I deleted the tag in that picture I goofed up, I had to retag it as ocean but now it still shows up as a red tag. >_< Dammit I just need a break from tagging these pictures. :(

EDIT: Disregard the above rant, I figured it out. :D

Because it's not the same thing visually, personally I'd get rid of the ocean tag (because it could be rivers, swimming pools, streams, ect) before I got rid of underwater.

Or we could have both and hurt no one since ocean views are a nice thing to have together.

Because they are sprites. And they go in the sprites tag. It's not cramming, it's grouping. As tags tend to do. Maybe someone just likes seeing sprites and has no specific one in mind. Maybe someone likes browsing through all the ancestor art, or felt art, or dancestor art, ect ect ect.

The basic function of tags is not "grouping", it's tagging a specific feature. Grouping can only happen after the basics are done.

The original function of the "sprite" tag (already on Skaianet even if some people were adding talksprites etc.) was approximately for sprites not seen in canon (sprites from AUs, sprites for fantrolls/kids, implied sprites we never actually saw like Seagoatdadsprite). Currently there's no way to dig those out without subtracting half a dozen other ones.

In theory there should be zero need for a fully general sprite tag since "*sprite" should do that job. In practice that (or other searches beginning with a wildcard) does not seem to work for whatever reason, so OK, you want a group tag, fine. But that shouldn't mean co-opting an existing tag. Which is why it's a good idea to discuss things before changing them.

(There's a similar situation going on with "lands", which used to mean basically "fanlands". Currently it has been expanded to cover all the planets apparently, but without actually fixing the tags for the previous ones as "fanlands.")

Besides I don't buy the "what if someone wants to see a combination of X Y and Z" argument that seems to come up repeatedly. Users know how to check distinct tags in succession. What if someone wants to see a combination of any patron trolls, shall we tag all pictures having Karkat, Kanaya, Vriska or Terezi with a common tag? Should we just in case implement a single tag referring to all Derse humans? Should we implement a single tag referring to everyone with glasses? Everyone with Riflekind modus? Everyone associated with the color red? Pictures with more than ten tags? How about I go and transform the "Vantases" tag so that instead of group pictures, it refers to all pictures with at least one Vantas somewhere in it?

If you want a tag covering all the sprites, that's OK, but arguments based on catering to the needs of hypothetical "someones" get ugly really fast. You cannot possibly think we can predict what exact combination of art someone would like to see, and I think we should stop making that call on others' behalf if that is what is being done here. Again, as I said re: "Nintendo": tagging one particular combination of video game franchises for this reason implies that people *wouldn't* want to see any other combination, which is 1) inaccurate, 2) patronizing, 3) setting up a bad precedent, 4) waste of effort, especially if set as a norm.

For all the talk against catering to hypotheses, I find your arguments against the sprite tag as a group to be a very slippery slope.

I for one like the idea of a sprite tag. They were my favorites with the exiles pre-act 4. I also have an issue with only using the tag with fan sprites, as the wording on tags should be self-explanatory as possible.

It is silly to compare tagging a term commonly used in the comic to refer to a markedly different group of individuals to tagging arbitrary things like "red."

This is a new site. Skaia needed much improvement, and now we have the tools to do so. So let's try our best to accept change needed to fix out problems, as well as address the problems of the community.

Why no upset feelings over the Felt tag which works in the exact same manner? I'm genuinely curious. Never once has the Felt tag been compared to the color red or glasses.

Or the underlings tag? Should that only count for fan underlings? Because apparently if something is canon it doesn't deserve a tag that exists and also applies to it?

A scenery picture of LOFAF alone is apparently no longer a land because it is canon? Is that how it works?

Maybe a "non_canon_sprite" tag or something similar can be implemented as well, "fanland", ect. To help separate the two further and make searching easy. Because I do agree with the core point beneath all that, that people probably would like to search fanmade things as well.

But Jade/Nanna/Davesprite are sprites and we have a sprite tag. I didn't make it, I'm merely trying to apply it to everything it applies to. Sprites are in game constructs, like going godtier, or underlings or most weapons, or Ancestral Awakening, or denizens, ect. They are in no way comparable to the color red or glasses, I really wish people would put more thought into their complaints at least. This apples to oranges logic is baffling.

I'm not forcing anyone to look up the sprite tag, I'm so unsure as to where that line of thought came from. All the tags we make are an assumption on what we think is useful, your argument technically rails against every tag ever. We /have/ to assume, it's not some dirty awful word. When railing against tags, some people have assumed people will not be able to get ship names, will require prefixes on things, everyone assumes about the audience of this board. The thing with tags is by them being there, they hurt no one. They only have the potential to be helpful. Me assuming someone might find them helpful is in no way patronizing, it's the truth if one person finds it so, which statistically speaking is a lot more plausible then absolutely no one finding it helpful which is your argument. And you speaking for the people against it is potentionally much more harmful since you're fighting tooth and nail against something that hurts no one and at the very, very least is a nice thing to have. Which is all tags are, as I've said many times. Helpful and a nice thing to have. I am unsure as to why speaking against tags on account of the voiceless users (which... I guess could be looking at the tags on a picture in a frothy rage over one additional tag apparently patronizing them with it's existance) is any less insulting or assumptive which apparently is some huge insult to be (and I do apologize to anyone I might have insulted by making tags on an imageboard). The only difference is that there are no tags being made and absolutely no people are being helped by a tag that isn't there / isn't complete.

The bottom line is applying an existing tag to things it applies to. That's what you're railing so hard against.
Nintendo, fine. I get the complaints about that (not really, but I made the tag so I expected the reaction I got) but sprite, not fansprite, not non_canon_sprite, just sprite, was a tag that existed on Skaia. I'm just using it correctly to refer to... sprites. Who didn't stop being sprites once they became canon. Just as a Felt is a Felt whether he's in a group or not. He has a name, sure. He's also a Felt.

We can incorporate fansprite / non canon sprite tags if you're really concerned about the ease of people's experience, I think that would be a great idea. We can do the same with lands too.

If sprite was meant to cover fansprites then it should have been changed to fansprites.

So uh, in an unrelated question, do we need a tag for Dave's timetables(are that's what they called) and Aradia's musicboxes? What about a tag for characters who are ill(though there's not a lot of pictures of that here I don't think).



Funny that you should say this because I was going to propose a "Strilonde" and "Harleybert" tags for images that features Derse and Prospit families as a group(and I mean all four of them together in their respective families).

Well, who's up for a lineart tag, meaning images that are basically lineart minus any type of heavy shading-with the exeception of colored in sunglasses and hair. I mean something like this: post #68839 or this:post #67861 would be suitable for the tag. But not this:post #67778 or this:post #65575 as they have too much shaded and filled in.


EDIT: I would also like someone to explain why is something like this:post #69065 is considered to be limited-palette and not monochromatic even though it uses only one color?

Yeah, I would think Dave's timetables and Aradia's music boxes would deserve their own tags. And a sick character tag does sound like a good idea, I do think once we start tagging it well see a surprising amount of those images. Even if we don't have a lot of pictures of ill characters, it'd still be helpful.

I like the Strilonde and Harleybert tags. I guess I should mention that Harleybert is a bit awkward since Jake and Jane have different last names, but eh, that's a technicality. Those definitely would be some good group tags.

Yeah, lineart would probably be a pretty useful tag. Not too sure about the complications with the limited-palette tag though.

The Harleybert name came from Rose when Jake visited a dream bubble that contained the meteor crew.

Ah, yes, I'd forgotten about that. Though it seemed to be a name that was kicking around before then when referring to the prospit sibs? Anyway, that serves to make it even more accurate. Good.

rocket_board and skulls are tags now, if you guys don't mind. And as a heads up, someone added sports and strife tags as I just noticed those now.

I had a question about the use of a medieval tag for medieval-themed art.

Also there was a question for a boob tag, though I'm not sure how to make that without being offensive and/or making this booru a little closer to nsfw.

that was me

i could just make a personal boob pool instead...

>no boys allowed

sawbuck's a MAN though