Pie
12/05/12 08:12PM
I'm liking the highlight color tag. Works well for those not quite but mostly black and white pictures.

I also think yeah we should keep the godtier but no class thing going on with the wings. Though Meenah's fancy outfits are actual variations of her thief clothes so I'm not sure if that should be tagged or not.

Also I'm fine with the katana name change. Makes sense.
Tropylium
12/05/12 10:01PM
Suggesting timeclones for pictures with a whole pile of Daves/Aradias.

Also I'm starting to see decent bunches of art that has had its content tags sorted out but still no artist tag; may I remind that we're now tagging all the artists? Anything with a working source should get one. Artist username by default, exceptions can be found under "Tags to be aware of" (but no need to memorize them all, they can be fixed later).

Edit2: should tags like "fashion", "alternate hair" apply to AU pics?
Pie
12/06/12 12:54AM
I think alternate hair should, fashion is a bit more subjective I guess but if it fits the general tag criteria of being... well fashon-y then I say yes.

also yeah, every pic should either have an artist tag or a suitable tag pertaining to the state of the url.

Though I have been tagging some artists even with deleted blogs that I know have quite some art on here, just to keep them all in one place.
Beelzebibble
12/06/12 09:47PM
After a solid couple days of work, I believe I've transferred all the "grayscale" and "highlight color" images out of "monochrome". The monochropoly is disbanded.
Chocoboo
12/06/12 11:19PM
Okay let's get this straight:

Without looking at the tags what would you guys categorize this image as, limited_palette, monochrome, or highlight_color:
(1)post #73279

Howabout this image:
(2)post #73194

Whatabout this one:
(3)post #73813

This one:
(4)post #70510

This:
(5)post #68792

This:
(6)post #67953

And this:
(7)post #69069

I just want to make sure of something based on that sample set for future reference.

In the meantime, no one else has any objection to the ninja_sword to katana change?
Pie
12/06/12 11:51PM
I've no objections to the katana change.

Also this is just my opinion according to my own understanding.

1)I say limited palette since the red is so predominant, it's not really serving as a highlight, and black and white are used in palettes.

2)Even though it is similar to 1, I'm leaning somewhat towards highlight color since the red used is much more sparse and the black and white commands more of your eye's attention all around.

3)Limited palette, two seperate shades of green are being used for each character.

4)Limited palette, the green and the red are being used.

5)Same as 1. The red is heavily used so calling it a highlight color seems weird.

6)Iunno I'm kind of ok with these black lines on a solid color being called monochrome, but I also get where limited palette comes from. That one I'm pretty open to discussion on.

7)Limited palette. I see yellow, white, blue, pink being used.

Those are my thoughts anyways.
Chocoboo
12/07/12 12:34AM
See with number 4, I'm leaning towards highlighted_color as green is the dominant color with the red highlighting the injuries. Or does that tag only apply to grayscale pictures?
Pie
12/07/12 12:45AM
I think it's meant to apply to grayscale pictures with just a bit of color serving as a highlight but I could be misunderstanding.
nobooks
12/07/12 01:27AM
I've noticed that images with varying shades of one colour have gotten the limited palette tag instead of the monochrome tag. Monochrome does refer to one colour being used, even if it is of varying shades. It's not like we have to follow the definiton to the letter, I'm just kind of curious about that.
Beelzebibble
12/07/12 02:36AM
1) limited_palette. The shades of grey and of red share such equal room that the other two choices would feel weird.

2) highlight_color. Dave's outfit is certainly what makes this ambiguous, but the grayscale elements overpower the red.

3) Strangely, I'd be more inclined to call this monochrome. I suppose two different shades of the same color COULD form a limited palette, but I feel like they need to be different in more than brightness. Like, a lime green, with a yellowish tinge, and a more bluish green that was closer to teal... They might still be "green", but they'd be different enough to merit being called a limited palette. This example you post is really just two different brightness values for the same color balance. One is just paler and one is darker, that's all. "monochrome" should be able to incorporate shading differences.

4) limited_palette, for sure. Yeah, the idea behind highlight_color is for predominately grayscale pictures with tinges of color, especially text and the like, which comes up a fair bit.

5) Might this not actually be monochrome? Or is the black too heavy? Because of course "monochrome" can handle white and black in moderation. I have to admit, my first instinct would have been monochrome, but I can appreciate the limited_palette argument. (Deffo not highlight_color, though.)

6. Definitely should be switched to monochrome. I can see that I was the one who tagged this originally; this is from when I thought "monochrome" should only mean "grayscale". The project I've just begun is to go back through "limited_palette" and correct those mistakes.

7. limited_palette. I'm guessing the only reason you were confused about this is because you weren't sure about highlight_color's purpose.


Seems numbers 3 and 5 are the only ones where Pie and I are getting different impressions. By all means, let's continue this discussion. That was a really good thing to post, Chocoboo.
Pie
12/07/12 02:59AM
I can see what you mean with the Erisol Jake picture but how far do we take the shades only thing? Because I have seen pictures done in just shades of blue, like Jane's cyan and John's blue are technically shades of blue you know? I'm fine with it we'd just have to draw ups some guidelines to it.

http://mspabooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=70364

Should something like this be monochrome as well?
(I guess Tinkerbull is more blueish but let's just suppose he's not in the picture, would Tavros himself count as monochrome due to various shades of green alone?)


The black feels pretty heavy on 5. Your eyes are drawn to it almost as much as to the red, it's concentrated, not just lines like in 6 imho
Beelzebibble
12/07/12 03:25AM
Regarding the Tavros picture (and disregarding Tinkerbull), I think if we said that it couldn't qualify for monochrome then we would be locking ourselves in that monochrome can only be ONE shade of the given color (plus a conservative amount of white/black). I guess -- how do you feel about this John picture? post #73308

If you call that monochrome, then Tavros by himself, I think, would also deserve to be called monochrome, if only Tinkerbull weren't tealing up the joint. If you call that limited_palette, then... man, I dunno. Just seems like, going down that road, all that's left in monochrome is the likes of post #73512. And let's not forget that the definition of "monochrome", as per both Dictionary.com and Wikipedia, allows shades of a color, not being restricted to exactly one hex value.

I'll concede to you on (5), though. It's true, the black is awfully heavy, and since we both think (1) is limited_palette, it stands to reason that the "palette" of limited_palette can include shades of white/grey/black in more than auxiliary roles. So, (5) should be limited_palette, then.
Pie
12/07/12 03:53AM
Alright I'm picking up what you're putting down. 3 would be monochrome then.
Beelzebibble
12/07/12 04:14AM
A'ight cool cool.
honeycomet
12/07/12 05:27AM
Just wanted to inquire something - what exactly is the "strong_outfit" tag? I assume it's for Dirk's outfit with his wifebeater + boots, but it's been used for images with only his wifebeater and no boots, which is confusing me.

Also, is "body_modification" just for piercings or does it cover things like tattoos as well?

And bumping that "blind_sollux" tag I requested a little earlier, but didn't appear to get any comment on.
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