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John_the_Savage >> #44730
Posted on 2014-09-24 07:54:53 Score: 5 (vote Up/Down)   (Report as spam)
The interesting part is just how little tubbs changed for this story. Scholars have spent centuries grappling with how much of a dick Jesus was in this story.

John_the_Savage >> #44736
Posted on 2014-09-25 19:46:29 Score: 3 (vote Up/Down)   (Report as spam)
One theory that was popular a few decades ago was that Jesus was just TIRED. He'd had a long day of preaching and healing the sick, and here's one more Canaanite woman asking him for something, and he just snapped. This has since fallen out of vogue, because there are plenty of other examples of Jesus overcoming his weariness in order to help people.

Another theory that had it's hay day was that this was where Jesus learned to help and preach to gentiles as well as Jews. This would be a good explanation, except for the fact that this all took place in Tyre and Sidon; a region that was almost all gentiles. Why would Jesus have gone there, if not to preach to gentiles?

The most satisfying explanation is that Jesus was testing her faith. Yes, to us humans it seems like a dick thing to do, but God does it all the time. The trick, so say the scholars, is to accept that God doesn't think like we do, and to have faith that it's all part of a higher plan.

Xenrek >> #44739
Posted on 2014-09-26 15:52:40 Score: 2 (vote Up/Down)   (Report as spam)
Eh, im still af an of the opinion that maybe he was just freakin tired. I mean,w ere talking about Jesus, and depending on your denomination, theres a slight difference between being jesus and being god himself. either way, he was still a man, and he has had other examples of "not being quite perfect" or "having a temper", so the theory that maybe he had an off day and just wanted to get soem munchies and some shuteye is perfectly reasonable. Hell, isnt that why god had his seventh day of rest? what if someone walked up to god on the seventh day and was like "bro, make some animals NAOW, i want animals", he prolly woulda gone old testament on them.

John_the_Savage >> #44742
Posted on 2014-09-27 07:09:37 Score: 1 (vote Up/Down)   (Report as spam)
It's true; Jesus wasn't perfect, and a lot of people forget that. They equate "without sin" as "without fault". A priest with whom I'm friends has often spoken in his sermons about the many mistakes of Jesus, particularly his choice in disciples (whom he often refers to as louts, dullards and screw-ups).

Still, there are so many other examples of him having boundless energy, and telling the disciples to rest while he continued his work, that the notion of him being tired is a bit hard for me to swallow.

Snuffleheim >> #44886
Posted on 2014-10-10 19:07:40 Score: 1 (vote Up/Down)   (Report as spam)
Well, isn't that generally part of the point of incarnation, though? To be put through all the stuff that comes with having a body and sharing that experience with the people? That means the bad stuff too.

John_the_Savage >> #44958
Posted on 2014-10-16 07:05:05 Score: 1 (vote Up/Down)   (Report as spam)
Oh, don't get me wrong, Jesus got tired, the same as he got hungry, and felt everything else that humans feel. When I say "boundless energy", I mean it in a mortal sense. Yes, he got tired, but he always seemed able to overcome his weariness when there was more work to do. I think we've all known somebody like that, or at least heard of someone, where you just marvel at how much energy they have.

Anyways, there's nothing necessarily "wrong" with Xenrek's opinion. Historically, priests have certainly related to the idea of having a long day of preaching, and being unable to deal with that one last person asking for their help. It just doesn't seem to match with the Jesus that we see in the rest of the Gospels, at least not to me.

And with that I'll leave it, since talking religion is playing with fire. It's been really civil so far, but academic discussions of the bible can heat up pretty quick. Don't want to give people the impression that I'm forcing my views on them.

Snuffleheim >> #45032
Posted on 2014-10-19 22:24:26 Score: 0 (vote Up/Down)   (Report as spam)
Hey, as far as I'm concerned, no worries. It was interesting to read and think about. Prolly good to quit while we're ahead tho, you're right.